Sweet Family West of Scotland

John Murdoch ROBERTSON

Person Chart

Parents

Father Date of Birth Mother Date of Birth
John ROBERTSON 6 Nov 1750 Elizabeth MURDOCH 9 Mar 1740

Person Events

Event Type Date Place Description
Birth 13 Jun 1777 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Christening 24 Jun 1777
Death 2 Apr 1848 Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland
Burial 7 Apr 1848 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Notes

Legacies of British Slave Ownership UCL:
Glasgow merchant, son and partner of John Robertson (q.v.). The two men together were avoided one half of the compensation for the Mount Pleasant estate on St Vincent, the other half of which was paid to Cecilia Douglas (q.v.).

John Murdoch Robertson, Northside [Largs] interred at Glasgow 7 April 1848, died 2 April, aged 71. His father John Robertson had bought one share in the Tontine for the Glasgow Coffee Room in 1781-1782 for the life of his son John Murdoch Robertson: Cecilia Douglas was reportedly the survivor of this Tontine.
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Given as John M. Robertson in the Register of Claims T71/892 for St Vincent in the compensation process, and as Messrs Robertson [with John Robertson] in the original claim form, but attached to the claim form is a note dated Glasgow 7th January 1836 requesting separate awards to Cecilia Douglas on the one hand and John Murdoch Robertson and John Robertson on the other, T71/1067 St Vincent no. 490, signed by the three of them.

Transcription of Largs [Ayrshire] Registered Deaths 1823-1854 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AYRSHIRE/2002-09/1031352286 [accessed 14/09/2015]; Glasgow Herald March 8th 1852, 'Loose Memoranda on Glasgow Subjects, No. 6 by Senex, The year 1783 - Tontine Coffee Room' which reproduced the Deed of Association of the Glasgow Tontine Society 1782, including the list of subscribers.

[note that the claim form note attachment is dated 7th January 1836 and signed by all three. BUT the Gazette suggests that John had died before 1816. So I wonder if this is his sister who was called John?]]
From "The Rise and Progress of the City of Glasgow" James Cleland: 1803 the 1st Regiment of Glasgow Volunteers included an ensign John M Robertson.
Hello Martin,

I have made a bit more progress regarding the children of John Robertson & Elizabeth Murdoch.
The house Northfield is a listed building formerly a fee-paying Marist College and still exists in Largs as shown below
on link to google map - was previously split into flats but now seems to be offices for whisky distillery company.

-https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.8076684,-4.8767604,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shixMWg0GqZh1fb24c5QmsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1



124 Greenock Road St Columba's College (formerly Northfield)Listed Building

Description: 124 Greenock Road St Columba's College (formerly Northfield)
Category: B
Date Listed: 8 September 1982
Historic Scotland Building ID: 37168
OS Grid Coordinates: 219792, 660910
Latitude/Longitude: 55.8078, -4.8771
Location: 13 Northfield Park, Largs, North Ayrshire KA30 8SP
Locality: Largs
County: North Ayrshire
Country: Scotland
Postcode: KA30 8SP
St Columba's College was an independent preparatory Marist college at Landour House, 118 Greenock Road, Largs, Ayrshire. It served as a (boarding and fee-paying) prep school feeder for Catholic boarding schools. It closed in 1982.

John and his sisters lived and died here - All died single as on census and death certificates.
I believe they were all interred in Ramshorn Church Cemetery( St Stephen's) in Glasgow's Merchant City. Notable people are interred there such as David Dale of New Lanark fame.

1841 Census - North Field, Largs (N.B - 1 SISTER IS CALLED - JOHN ROBERTSON - this is not a mistake as its also on her DEATH CERTIFICATE)

J M Robertson 60 MALE INDEPENDANT
Mary Robertson 70 FEMALE INDEPENDANT SISTER
Elizabeth Robertson 63 FEMALE INDEPENDANT SISTER
John Robertson 61 FEMALE INDEPENDANT SISTER
Janet Robertson 50 FEMALE INDEPENDANT SISTER
Agnes McConnochy 30 FEMALE SERVANT
Janet Murdock 20 F.S
Ann Mcphee 20 F.S


1851 census
Northfield House, Greenock Road, Largs
Mary Robertson Head Unmarried Female aged 80 Gentlewoman and house owner birth place Glasgow
Elisabeth Robertson Sister Unmarried Female aged 76 Gentlewoman and house owner birth place Glasgow
J Robertson Sister Unmarried Female aged 73 Gentlewoman and house owner birth place Greenock
Janet Murdoch Servant Unmarried Female aged 31 House cook born in Gargunnock, Stirlingshire
Anne McConnechie Servant Unmarried Female aged 48 House servant born in Ayrshire

OPR no copy taken, this is the fourth John
in the book "Glasgow and its clubs" on Page 271 the list of members of the "What You Please Club" includes John Murdoch Robertson. The club was founded in 1798 and appears to be a gentlemen's drinking club.
The slave compensation scheme By James Waugh; an extract from his aricle in the Scottish Genealogist June 2017.

The slave trade was abolished in 1807, but it took another 26 years to effect the emancipation of the enslaved. [Read also the 'Last Governor' which details continuing slavery on the west of Africa] In 1833, Parliament finally abolished s;avery in the British Caribbean, Maurtius and the cape. £20 million, [using his conversion ratio, this amounts to £244, 410,000 in todays values] taken from tax, was to be paid in compensation. to the former slave owners. The Slave Compensation Commission, which began to meet in October 1833, incliuded reprasentatives of the Colonial Office and the Slave Registry. It worked on data collected by assistant colonial boards of compensation, nominated by the governor in each colony, and compensation was allowed on slaves appearing on the books of the slave registry on 1 July 1835. All payments had to be claimed at the Commission offices in Old Jewry Street in London.
Historic studies, until recently. concentrated on the role of the Scots in the abolition of slavery. However, it is now possible to see that Scots, as owners, were at all stages in the mistreatment of slaves in the West Indies, especially in the sugar estates.
A valuable insight into the role of the Scots in the caribbean sugar economy is the recent publication of a database by University College London which looks at the Slave Compensation Commission records. A five-year project by UCL has compiled the identities of 46,000 Britons who owned slaves, mainly in the West Indies. The compensation records provide us with a snapshot of slave owners in 1834, in Britain and elsewhere. the records show that as a proportion of the population, the highest rate of slave ownership was to be found in Scotland.......
Scotland had one of the highest proportion of slave owners of any nation during the 18th century, with people in edinburgh twice as likely to own a slave as a person in Glasgow or London during the same period. From 1500 to 1860 it is estimated that around 12 million enslaved Africans were traded to the Americas, 3.25 million in British ships.
Caledonian Mercury 12 Oct 1801
Reference to John Murdoch Robertson merchant in Glasgow...Game Certificate.

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